New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

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New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

Postby infringer » September 4th, 2011, 6:31 pm

title Ubuntu 10.10 (GNOME Desktop x86)
find --set-root /ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso
map /ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
kernel /casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper persistent iso-scan/filename=/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso splash
initrd /casper/initrd.lz

I see that ISO's for the most part follow a basic formatting when adding to the list of extras to boot...

What I would like to see is an autobuild button in the GUI that will:
Get all names of ISO's in extra folder
Output all names to a list that is the default format above.

Then have an Extras tab in the GUI that:
Displays the names of all ISO's that are updated when the autobuild button is clicked
Has the same URL Button for download and the checkbox to allow the addition of the ISO
Both of the above 2 lines should be editable as well by adding a edit button where people can edit and add there own URL and people can edit the extra boot information for each ISO as well in the extras tab in case there is something different or something that needs a patch.

Native support request for:
Hirens Boot CD
Acronis True Image Home 2011 Boot CD
Windows All Versions from 3.x - Windows 8 Beta Including Server Editions eg Windows Home Server

Other features I would like to see:
Support of an ISO file over 4GB NTFS? or Alternative? I would assume that one could manipulate data so that fat32 could store a single file larger than 4 GB or possibly chain 2 or more files together with some kind of chain indication signature or something maybe there is a flag already useable for such a thing IDK?

Either way lets face it ISO's are not getting any smaller I already have ISO's well over 4GB how about AHCI Support instead? That should really add some future proofing to Sarducd...?

I know this is a lot to ask but in the name of making your software the "GO TO" software for multiboot ISO creation and worthy of fair donations I suggest you add this which will give you potential to be recognized more and possibly make more for all of your effort put into this software.

If you are not interested in the continuation of updates to this software at any time I ask that you at that time share your complete source code so otheres can continue to develop your software.

Thank You,

-infringer-
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Re: New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

Postby davidecosta » September 5th, 2011, 12:46 pm

I don't understand why if i add one option, people ask me 100 options.

I don't understand your requests. You want an autobuild for extra options? If Yes Extra is out of SARDU, it's only one opportunity for the people that have the knowledge for build a menu or to support generic ISOs.

Acronis is commercial, my job isn't in computer science...i don't have and i don't use acronis

Windows from 3.x ? Why not 1? You know anyone that use Windows 3.x? Or use Windows 3.x? If a pc use Win 3.x support the USB?

Files over 4 gb will be supported when I'll try the version for NTFS of syslinux. I do not know when I'll try.

You think that the problems of not donations is that there aren't win 3.x or other windows? The problems is simply: people expects things for free. My job isn't in computer science, i don't spent all my free time for make money the technicians. Keep up SARDU has costs, i don't spent my money for keep up SARDU.When I will decide to stop the develop of SARDU , the SARDU's project will dead.
When i started the develop of SARDU there was not a similar software, was the first software for automatize the builder of multiboot.....I'm sorry to have created (you think) a small application.

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Re: New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

Postby infringer » September 5th, 2011, 7:22 pm

On second thought maybe my suggestions seemed a little overwhelming I know you are not computer science I read that in your other posts but you seemed to complain about donations. I will be honest with you while I have downloaded your software I have not even used it yet mainly because of the fact that an ISO or two I wanted to include were over the limit ... No NTFS support. Hey that would be great...

How many donations are you looking to get to support syslinux NTFS? I'd make my own program personally but really I guess I would not know where to start with it. I have made 1 piece of software for personal useage and I'll tell you knowing nothing about programming it took me about 2 weeks solid for hours a day until I was satisfied with it and it ain't really nothing all that complex to be honest with you but it looks and works well and would be useless for anyone but someone native to my local area.

I think it's great that you are building this program I just don't understand why all the hostility when I make some simple suggestions to make the program better. Thinking about this in respect if you simply took care of the NTFS issue (which you seem to be well aware of) and the extras autobuild addition with edits. I don't think there would be much of a need for further updates as people would have a tool that would work or could be used for nearly everything available for years to come technically you would not even have to include any buttons this whole program could have nothing and it would do everything fairly easily and your discussions would be limited to adding this ISO or a patch for this ISO or a possible update to syslinux every now and then.

I would like to ask for some pointers on making my own version and putting in work but there again I would be asking for free time from you and doing stuff for free is not cool in some peoples books cause there are profiteers out there scamming and making cash off of your hard free work I see why someone can start off with something so giving and innocent and they can turn bitter when they see some schmo out there stealing everything and making money off of it. I am sorry that this happens and happened to you but hey look it wasn't me man.

To be honest you don't know me or my morals or thoughts yet I've only made one post at your forum and wold prefer if you didn't generalize me in to some lame group saying that I am like "everyone" to me that is unfair really. While it is the easy way out I am sure how do you not know that my intentions are not exactly what you speak of. I'll tell you if you think an I hate the world cause of a few bad apples out there will get you to a better place I believe you will continue to struggle.

Finally if you did any research I suppose some versions of hirens boot cd include everything that you have listed for you software options and then some so you could basically scratch a ton of your code just by adding Hirens boot cd ...

Look man I hope this don't set me off on the wrong foot again with you but what can I say I didn't come here with a negative attitude I came here with a positive one thinking of great things this program could become down the line. But at this point I think I may have took the wrong approach or something.

Take care David I really wish you the best man. And you have a good program and I apologize if I presented myself in a manner which overwhelmed you honestly this was not my intention.
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Re: New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

Postby UFdFan » September 5th, 2011, 7:33 pm

infringer wrote:I know this is a lot to ask but in the name of making your software the "GO TO" software for multiboot ISO creation and worthy of fair donations I suggest you add this which will give you potential to be recognized more and possibly make more for all of your effort put into this software.

If you are not interested in the continuation of updates to this software at any time I ask that you at that time share your complete source code so otheres can continue to develop your software.
-infringer-


Hello :D

Do you write your post, after a public poll?
Are these all your own desires?

Very good :!: I would liked it a lot if you develop a equivalent software to SARDU and implement your ideas to make your "GO TO"
When you ready share your complete source code so otheres can continue to develop your software.

:cheers:
Important information: Don't change the SARDU screen or menu's when you want a fine working SARDU. 8-)
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Re: New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

Postby davidecosta » September 5th, 2011, 10:19 pm

infringer wrote:On second thought maybe my suggestions seemed a little overwhelming I know you are not computer science I read that in your other posts but you seemed to complain about donations. I will be honest with you while I have downloaded your software I have not even used it yet mainly because of the fact that an ISO or two I wanted to include were over the limit ... No NTFS support. Hey that would be great...

How many donations are you looking to get to support syslinux NTFS? I'd make my own program personally but really I guess I would not know where to start with it. I have made 1 piece of software for personal useage and I'll tell you knowing nothing about programming it took me about 2 weeks solid for hours a day until I was satisfied with it and it ain't really nothing all that complex to be honest with you but it looks and works well and would be useless for anyone but someone native to my local area.

I think it's great that you are building this program I just don't understand why all the hostility when I make some simple suggestions to make the program better. Thinking about this in respect if you simply took care of the NTFS issue (which you seem to be well aware of) and the extras autobuild addition with edits. I don't think there would be much of a need for further updates as people would have a tool that would work or could be used for nearly everything available for years to come technically you would not even have to include any buttons this whole program could have nothing and it would do everything fairly easily and your discussions would be limited to adding this ISO or a patch for this ISO or a possible update to syslinux every now and then.

I would like to ask for some pointers on making my own version and putting in work but there again I would be asking for free time from you and doing stuff for free is not cool in some peoples books cause there are profiteers out there scamming and making cash off of your hard free work I see why someone can start off with something so giving and innocent and they can turn bitter when they see some schmo out there stealing everything and making money off of it. I am sorry that this happens and happened to you but hey look it wasn't me man.

To be honest you don't know me or my morals or thoughts yet I've only made one post at your forum and wold prefer if you didn't generalize me in to some lame group saying that I am like "everyone" to me that is unfair really. While it is the easy way out I am sure how do you not know that my intentions are not exactly what you speak of. I'll tell you if you think an I hate the world cause of a few bad apples out there will get you to a better place I believe you will continue to struggle.

Finally if you did any research I suppose some versions of hirens boot cd include everything that you have listed for you software options and then some so you could basically scratch a ton of your code just by adding Hirens boot cd ...

Look man I hope this don't set me off on the wrong foot again with you but what can I say I didn't come here with a negative attitude I came here with a positive one thinking of great things this program could become down the line. But at this point I think I may have took the wrong approach or something.

Take care David I really wish you the best man. And you have a good program and I apologize if I presented myself in a manner which overwhelmed you honestly this was not my intention.


For develope SARDU i spent hundreds of my free time. NTFS for syslinux is in beta testing...but i'm afraid. I'll add the control to check who user write the disk with windows.
SARDU isn't born to "make money" but isn't also born to spent my money :D. When I complain about donations is a question rule, I never asked 1,10, 100 €, the donations are free.

My english is very very poor :(, your requests is ONLY to add one menu for generic ubuntu? If Yes I had thought long ago but I forgot.
These days I'm going crazy with the downloaders (future options) and I have to finish the uninstall....hours hours and ...hours :(
Hiren's was supported, and i will readd. Now, qith last beta if you have the iso of hiren's will appear the button

My best problems is the poor english, after a workday, tired, having slept a few hours (my daughter :D ) it is easy to misunderstand, sorry :cheers:
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Re: New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

Postby infringer » September 7th, 2011, 4:09 am

Well that is all great to hear but like you say do not burn yourself out over my lame requests...

Addressing linuxbaby you know you are correct 100% maybe I was a little over the edge but I tend to get excited when I see something with potential like this application to be an even greater tool consider my suggestions just ways to improve. As I've said my apologies as it was not my intentions at all I just seen a potential for this software to go further and would like to donate to the cause if the developer is going in the right direction.

Typical geek errr ummm whatever but I'll tell you it would actually be interesting trying to write such a program I guess I could try and make a program that would output the text needed for a standard extras disk but doing so may not prove all that useful unless there was some type of integration to make it useful. I have not even tried or downloaded the program but I can tell this program is far from something to stick your nose up at and it has a lot of potential ...

If something grabs your attention it grabs your attention heck I registered without using the program just because of this. I hope to provide some donation within the near future for as I said this is a program with a lot of potential and I realize that it takes time and much effort to develop... Look forward to watching your development come along and will try to provide some kind of donation as this progresses.

Thanks for your kind reply I think you will gain much more support taking things in stride rather then in strife.

Great job David !

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Re: New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

Postby davidecosta » September 7th, 2011, 8:13 am

You have never tried SARDU?
You know another one software that does what he does sardu? There isn't. SARDU make ISO AND USB (others only usb), SARDU can Burn one ISO (with all speed), SARDU make install of Seven or Vista and ALL Windows XP (Others only seven), SARDU build all in a single step, is incremental, manage natively more to 60 ISOs, SARDU can uninstall the software, soon you will have one multi download manager....
If one "extra" is directly supported...ins't one "extra"!
Why you don't try to make a software to manage the extra? I can redistribute it with SARDU...if this will work great.
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Re: New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

Postby infringer » September 11th, 2011, 4:22 am

I would like to support extras actually it would be rather interesting to do but I need to figure out where to start...

What are the specifics for extra.cfg?

Is the "#" operator in the cfg to comment something out or remove it without removing it?

Where do the extras need to start? I am guessing it is here
#-> EDIT HERE <-
This is where you add the extras data correct?
#-> EDIT HERE <-

If so there are a lot of objectives to cover.
Need to scan current directory for all iso file names compare each file name to a list of file names if the names are close enough then add the data to the cfg with the exact name of the iso this will be a far more complex solution then I had imagined originally but still it is possible.
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Re: New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

Postby infringer » September 11th, 2011, 4:41 am

I took care of some of the easy stuff just drop this file in Sardu\ISO\Extra

http://www.filedropper.com/sardux

This is just a basic start as I said I need to create objectives and research how to accomplish them with code I will be using C# to develop this application.

I may need some help here cause I am a complete newbie to coding anything. So anyone willing to help please do!
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Re: New features Req: Lets Make this a great application

Postby infringer » September 11th, 2011, 4:48 am

notice that I have the link text wrong currently

Sorry about that the hyperlink that it opens is correct though I forgot the cd on the link text oh well in a hurry I guess I will update it later.

Of course the generate button does not work currently this is what I will need to dedicate some time now for now you are stuck with the manual edit.
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