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[NoLogo]

Hmm..

I can understand the thought of introducing a payed version, but would it then mean there also would be a limited version for non-paying ?

Furthermore commercial-ware attracts crackers and other web-criminals who will just hack SARDU and after injecting it with Malware spread it on the internet. You would then need more of SARDU for solving the damage resulting from usage. Also the reputability and trustworthiness of SARDU could become an issue, since casual PC users aren't able to distinguish between the original and the bad versions. Since SARDU is a security tool it would be a minefield i.m.o.

Perhaps you could introduce an "Enterprise license". This would be for companies or professionals who use SARDU.

As a firm believer in open source and freeware software I can't endorse the American licensing system, since it limits peoples freedom and creativity.

But the "Enterprise license", meaning SARDU in a non-commercial setting would still be freeware, may help you to find some financial resources to maintain the project.

Do consider too that when you sell a product it needs to be 100% reliable and complete.

Also some elements of providing service need to be in place.

Other question is the volunteers work done by for example translators like myself, that was provided free-of-cost to the project.

Ofcourse you're the boss and you should follow your own heart !

Just my 2 cents worth...

[davidecosta]

This is a old thread....i think to close this sections but...is correct reply
When i wrote this thread i was developing a new version of SARDU for Windows, Linux and Mac. The first multiboot builder cross platform. This project is at a standstill for many months now.

Remember that my job is not in the computer science. I do not gain from IT. In my business, computer science is just a cost.

I can understand the thought of introducing a payed version, but would it then mean there also would be a limited version for non-paying ?

probably yes

Furthermore commercial-ware attracts crackers and other web-criminals who will just hack SARDU and after injecting it with Malware spread it on the internet. You would then need more of SARDU for solving the damage resulting from usage. Also the reputability and trustworthiness of SARDU could become an issue, since casual PC users aren't able to distinguish between the original and the bad versions. Since SARDU is a security tool it would be a minefield i.m.o.

At this moment, if you make a search, there are crack, keygen and others for SARDU. When software is popular these problems come. What you say is now. Is my problem? Can I do anything? NO

Perhaps you could introduce an "Enterprise license". This would be for companies or professionals who use SARDU.

SARDU is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License.

As a firm believer in open source and freeware software I can't endorse the American licensing system, since it limits peoples freedom and creativity.
But the "Enterprise license", meaning SARDU in a non-commercial setting would still be freeware, may help you to find some financial resources to maintain the project.
Do consider too that when you sell a product it needs to be 100% reliable and complete.

You talk about theory, I practice. I receive hundreds of emails with the signing of large companies, multinationals that use Sardu and asking for help, and added. someone paid me? NO
I have three hosting to be paid, my computer, that I use to program, has four years....
Complete? Find me another software can build what he builds SARDU. SARDU is the only one that supports all installations. Now my question is very very very easy. A technician working for free? When a technician install windows you pay? 30 €? 60€? With SARDU the technician saves a lot of time. The time is money.
The classic phrase is, "if you add this I make a donation!" bullshit, bullshit and bullshit. You saw the donations after I did the addition? I do not. Gone with the job done.

The truth is that the technicians are like leeches who want to earn by the work of others, without recognizing the merits, thinking that the effort to have pressed a button, justify them to earn free.

This is the reason for which I have stopped developing the version 3.0, this is The pattern for which SARDU may appear incomplete and without guide.
I have a daughter and my daughter don't eat dreams. If I must choose between change a PC, and to feed my daughter what do you think of mine choice?
In Italy the situation is tragic.

I'm sorry if I have seemed rude, I would like to see you in my place.

[wigloba]

It heavily depends on what the pro-version is providing in comparison with what the free-version is providing.
Lets say:
Using the pro-version I can decide what tools to install on my stick and it would be possible to use multiple custom windows images.

I would pay 30$ for it. Maybe more.

[wigloba]

Furthermore commercial-ware attracts crackers and other web-criminals who will just hack SARDU and after injecting it with Malware spread it on the internet. You would then need more of SARDU for solving the damage resulting from usage. Also the reputability and trustworthiness of SARDU could become an issue, since casual PC users aren't able to distinguish between the original and the bad versions. Since SARDU is a security tool it would be a minefield i.m.o.

rofl to that. Your argumentation sounds extremely unlikely/bullshit
It's like:
If you release a SARDU Pro version people will think the limited freeversion is bad or just not good enough. So they ask some hacker-friends to completely decompile it, make some visual changes and compile it again calling it different. Then they will create an own website and share the tool for free. So everyone will see that there is a tool which has the same features as SARDU but it is for free. All this would resault in "no one will ever download SARDU again".
You see? It is just as unlikely as yours, well maybe I exeggerated a little bit more than you but the quintessence is clear.

[vmars316]

i think instead of paying, you should donate for it, but a 10 dollar minimum is required. But thats just me.

$10-ware.
That sounds good to me...Vernon

[timinor]

Davide:
Thank you for a great tool! I just found out about it recently and used it to clean a nasty virus on a friend's PC. But I wish there was a way for me to use your tool for business. "Free for personal use" is very nice, but I think it would be good to have a commercial license, perhaps, $20 US for a single use license, $50 US for an annual license.

You could also have different levels of the product. For example, the $20 single use license would provide a few recovery ISOs and some Linux. But a single use license for more tools would be $40 or $50. Customization (adding features) would be a minimum of $100 or up to $1000 depending on the amount of work required. And no, I don't think that installing Windows from a USB drive falls under the category of "personal use".

But I really feel bad for you, the way people take advantage of you. You have put a lot of time into this tool and people complain = that's ridiculous.

On the other hand, developing a business model for this kind of tool is not easy, especially when people all around the world would like to use your tool. You should be able to have a life with your family.

But one question... um... your English is a whole lot better than my Italian... the Donate button presents Italian and I can't figure out how to get English; of all the countries in the list, I don't see the United States. Should I just donate directly from my US Paypal account?

Thanks,
TimC

[teranus]

Hi

You said, you think about a per pc licensing system.
I wouldn't prefer this and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't use it then.
Look, it just combines some boot-sticks we already use and the advantage is just 'once' in our case.
I would really donate 10€ for your work and this very good project, but a per PC/Windows install license, it's unusable for me and I would continue with our old solutions.
We already have 2 Windows-Install Sticks, 3 Kaspersky Rescue Sticks, 1 Hitman Stick and 3 Sticks with UltimateBootCD.
It would just be nice to have 5 equal Sticks with all of these functions

Kind Regards,
Peter

[Hatem95]

I think a pro version 10-20 € is reasonable and keep the Donate button for the future project. In addition, if there is an update to charge 5€. Otherwise, many people will turn to free versions (like yumi).

[nado-gr4]

I think a pro version with 1 year of free updates (and support) should have a price of €35, after first year : €20/year for updates & support.